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welcome to the skeptic zone

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the podcast from australia for science

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and reason

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yes it's the skeptic zone podcast

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episode number 637

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for the 27th of december 2020 the last

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date

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that was a cat by the way what do you

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want it's early

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i've got up early to beat the birds

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and i get cats go on scoot

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cats invading the studios the last time

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i'll be announcing the date as 2020 what

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a year

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an unforgettable year and of course uh

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in a couple of days when the when the

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calendar clicks over

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ticks over to 2021

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well i'm afraid things will be much the

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same as they are now

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but hopefully by the end of 2021 things

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will be very different indeed

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yes i'm not very early to try to beat

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the

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flocks of birds that

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invade this area and there's one

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solitary bird

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bird out there right now i don't know

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what it is

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i think there's an app an app you can

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record birds or it listens for birds and

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will tell you what the bird is

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a big greeting to all my friends from

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around the world

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who i haven't seen for a very long time

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since this silly pandemic started and

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even

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longer than that and maybe you're in the

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same boat maybe there's somebody you

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haven't seen for a very long time

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maybe even since uh well the beginning

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of the year

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before things really started to go bad

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for me it's

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um not seeing lots of friends in the

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united states

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and not seeing people at conventions and

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conferences and skeptics in the pub and

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that sort of thing

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yes we all have very special people in

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our lives

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and sometimes we just can't uh we just

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can't be together we just can't see them

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but it is nice to be able to keep in

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touch via

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regular texting or video conferencing or

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things like that

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and of course we spare a thought for

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those people who have lost people

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this year due to this awful pandemic and

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more and more on my regular video

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conferences and

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uh chats and things with lots of people

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more and more people

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have relate to me they either know

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somebody who has lost somebody or they

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have lost somebody themselves

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which makes the

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uh rantings and railings and carrying on

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of the anti-vaxxers and the conspiracy

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theorists

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all that more irksome this year

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but what's coming up on this week's show

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we're going to kick off with

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speaking of conspiracy theorists what a

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good leading that is

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pete evans yes the disgraced former

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television personality and noted bonkers

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barking mad conspiracy theorist

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has been booted off facebook for his

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ravings and rantings about uh covert 19.

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we cover that story coming up first then

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we have logical fallacies with michelle

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and this week michelle's going to be

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looking at the

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slothful induction fallacy

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then to round off the show another dive

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into the treasure trove of

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trove.nla.gov.eu the online resource

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from the australian government and the

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national library of australia

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and we're going to be looking at

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astrology

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seers seeing about world war ii

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in the early days did the stars get it

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hmm but now it's time for me to run

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jumping over these cats where are they

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it was a bad sign they're both waiting

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outside the studio door so when i open

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to run downstairs and get my coffee

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because i need a nice big coffee to in

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the year

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i have to be careful not to trip over

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henrietta and maud the skeptic's own

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cats are you out there

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oh yes at the top of the stairs while i

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now here's this week's update on

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the ongoing saga what's another name for

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a sad story a sad tale a sad saga

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there must be a word anyway pete evans

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as he has been labeled in the press the

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disgraced

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former tv chef who won the australian

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skeptics ben spoon award in 2020

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the only person to win the bet spoon

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award twice

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the conspiracy theorist anti-vaxxer

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latest news about pete evans and this

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comes to us from the age

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written by david escort on the 23rd of

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facebook boots celebrity chef pete evans

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celebrity chef pete evans has been

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facebook just days after telling sydney

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to not get tested for covert 19.

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the social media giant said his

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profile was removed from multiple

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breaches of its

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misinformation and harm policies

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mr evans has repeatedly shared covert 19

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misinformation and conspiracy theories

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throughout the pandemic we don't allow

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anyone to share a misinformation about

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covert 19 that could lead to

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imminent physical harm or covert 19

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vaccines that have already been debunked

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spokesperson said in a statement we have

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clear policies against this type of

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content and we've removed

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chef pete evans facebook page for

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violations of these policies facebook

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had previously removed posts made by

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that they deemed contained

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misinformation earlier this year

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evans was fined twenty five thousand

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dollars by the therapeutics goods

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administration over complaints about a

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biocharger device that he claimed could

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wuhan coronavirus the tga said the claim

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then seven and that is the

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television network the seven television

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otherwise known as channel seven then

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seven cut him loose from his eight

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thousand dollar my kitchen rules

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due to cost cutting and the show's

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for a two-hour chat on his podcast

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in november pan mcmillan the publisher

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of evans cookbooks

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relationship with him after he shared a

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cartoon image of a butterfly

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whose wing pattern was in the form of a

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sonnenrt black sun an ancient norse

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symbol that has been

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then 10 and again that's a television

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channel 10 then 10 dumped him from

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i'm a celebrity get me out of here the

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associated product lines

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then boycotted him evans who has been

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heavily criticized by the medical

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said disease would set into these people

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politicians for the corruption

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and lies they perpetrate in october

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discourage people from getting a covert

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vaccine and that story is also

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so there we go the latest news on the

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increasingly sad story that is disgraced

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and i would imagine that this sort of

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to uh pete evans and two other

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anything that happens anything that

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i want to thank everyone who via the

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has contacted me to become an editor on

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countless thousands of people all over

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the world access those pages each day

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in fact we're over 52 million page views

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and i want to encourage you to do the

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same is the information

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and entertainment you get each week from

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logical fallacies

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what are logical fallacies and why is it

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a logical fallacy is an error we can

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they are traps we can fall into but if

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this time we'll look at the slothful

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fallacy this is when even though there

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evidence is rejected and replaced by

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worldview it can be hard even when faced

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believe to be true

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if the outcome is positive then all the

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more reason to hold on to that

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belief the water diviner we hired was

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able to find water on our farm

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now i know underground water is not

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uncommon

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but i saw him in action and i'm

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convinced

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of his abilities yes underground water

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in the farming regions of australia

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and many other countries is not uncommon

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yet some people will still credit

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something like the mythical powers of a

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water diviner

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when water is found maybe they believe

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in it

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to begin with maybe they are impressed

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by the theatrics

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or maybe they happen to be unlucky when

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sinking a well in the past

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when not using a diviner i'm pleased to

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say

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that my cancer is in remission and the

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prognosis is looking good

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thank goodness i followed the natural

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healer's advice and stopped eating red

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colored food

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while undergoing chemotherapy stories

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like this are well known to skeptics

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even though people sometimes very

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reluctantly

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will submit to chemotherapy and other

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science-based interventions

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they will still credit any improvement

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to whatever

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unproven alternative treatment they are

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taking at the same time

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we should not expect people who are in

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fear of their lives

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to always think rationally i saw a ufo

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last week

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i'm i'm sure it was an alien spaceship

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it was very bright in the evening sky

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and seemed to hover for some time even

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though my skeptical friend

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said it was in the same location in the

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sky as the planet venus

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it makes more sense to me that it was a

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real ufo

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here we have a case of an object in the

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sky with

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two differing explanations

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venus is often mistaken for aircraft

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even ufos and we know its location

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exactly at

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any given time yet

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for some it's far more exciting to

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conclude that

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aliens are the real cause of the strange

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light in the sky

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[Music]

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the slothful induction fallacy is a way

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for people to

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preserve their beliefs even though there

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is

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better evidence for them to reject those

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beliefs

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it's far easier hence the use of the

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word slothful

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to just hold on to what you think is

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true

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[Music]

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knowing a logical fallacy when you hear

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one and even knowing its name

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is important when arguing your point of

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view

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however you may come across as arrogant

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and not get very far if you call it out

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by name

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to your opponent when you hear it being

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used

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if your opponent calls you out for using

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one

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it's time to stop and think about how

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you are making your case

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use your knowledge of logical fallacies

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wisely

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and remember that even if your point of

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view is right

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and you know all the pitfalls in arguing

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your case

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it doesn't always mean you'll win on the

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day

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and as skeptics we must also remember

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that we too can be wrong at times

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i'm michelle bickersma from the vic

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skeptics thanks for listening

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i sure do miss going to those skeptical

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meetings in pubs and cafes

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to hear talks and interact with my

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friends

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[Music]

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who the hell are you i'm your skeptical

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fairy godmother angel from the internet

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you're my skeptical what relax

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richard i can make your wish come true

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what you mean free

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beer no no no

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the other wish oh oh really

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yes i have news of skeptical meetings

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and

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talks online oh oh

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oh yes of course yes skeptics cafe

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online by the vic skeptics

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brings you live and interactive

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skeptical talks via zoom

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anyone anywhere in the world is welcome

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to join in on the third monday of the

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month

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just check out the skeptics cafe page on

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facebook to see when the next talk is

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and who will be presenting alternatively

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see the vic skeptics website at

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vicskeptics.wordpress

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for details that sounds great a

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skeptical

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um god fairy angel mother um

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person and there are similar skeptical

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online talks

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happening around the country and all

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over the world

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all you need to do is search for them

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wow

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now just one more question yes

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what about the beer

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okay all right

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well just for you

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i'll make it so you can go to the

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supermarket

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buy whatever beer you like and drink it

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while watching the talk online at home

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and they say miracles never happen and

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to

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for

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[Music]

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now it's time once again to dive into

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the treasure trove that is trove

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at trove.nla.gov dot a u the online

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resource from the australian government

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gazettes oh i like that word why aren't

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there any more gazettes gazettes

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newspapers periodicals magazines and so

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on

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and the archive is at your fingertips

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and in past weeks we have done searches

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on classic

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skeptical topics and this week we are

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looking at astrology

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astrology and world war

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ii and you never know what you're going

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to get

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with the searches on trove and the first

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search that's come up or one of them i

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must say there's been a collection of

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them

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well one of the first ones that's come

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up is from something called

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smith's weekly and

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this is dated the 9th of december

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1939

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[Music]

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with the headline war has debunked

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astrology by h

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c makai

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[Music]

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australia in common with the rest of the

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world is afflicted

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with a plague of astrologers in britain

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the war has put an

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end to astrology's political predictions

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the stars they aver are now too

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difficult to read

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their australian colleagues would do

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well to accept

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this hint and confined prophecy

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to such harmless generalities as

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domestic trifles

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love accidents luck races and the

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weather

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the sudden development of the polish

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crisis leading to the present war

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took the leading british seers

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completely by surprise old more

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this hoary prophet has been showering

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predictions for centuries

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and is today probably a company

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announced that

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there might be a war crisis

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but it would be averted by mr

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chamberlain petulangro

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pet of the sunday chronicle and edward

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lindow seer of the people

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also read peace in the stars

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their prestige suffered a severe setback

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formally their forecasts were read and

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believed in

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by thousands of credulous citizens every

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week

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australian newspaper astrologers have

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similarly

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crashed in 1937 they predicted the

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downfall of hitler

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by the end of 1938 just as they

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predicted the downfall of mussolini

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soon after the conquest of abyssinia

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when hitler weathered 1938

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they gave him a year's grace in 1939

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hedging shrewdly as the european

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situation developed

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they promised him a peak of success

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followed by extinction

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hitler by the way keeps his own pack of

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astrologers

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who are reported to forecast his success

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maybe the stars tell a different tale in

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german

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in any case the prophet's job is a

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ticklish one with ss men

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and the headsman a gog for a treasonable

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remark the most pretentious australian

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astrological forecast for the present

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year is the work of a member of the

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international college of astrology

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unfortunately the war caught this

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astrologer

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as it did her british colleagues

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for the third quarter of 1939 this

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actually included the declaration of war

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and the downfall of poland her forecast

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was better conditions for the world in

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general

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international relations will be improved

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as for the september new moon it could

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well be

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named the moon of peace the moon on the

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whole

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is peaceful and progressive prophecy for

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the last quarter of 1939

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with its submarine and floating mine

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horrors

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england experienced greater prosperity

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due to jupiter in her ruling sign

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in november however the stars warn of

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discontent and danger taking the form in

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england and parts of europe

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of much discontent among the workers

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with risk of a railway or air accident

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and the writer has put in brackets one

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air accident

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in brackets not a word

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on the present conflict even poland

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obvious mark for disaster escapes with

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poland has a disturbed year and comes

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very close to war

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of japan actually in possession of the

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best part of china

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the undeclared war will not make headway

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in germany

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hitler's government is wobbly in march

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1939

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but hitler himself if not snuffed out in

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the last

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three months of 1938 has his most

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important year in 1939

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around may he will gain

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new territory a pretty safe forecast

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he will invent new ways of meeting out

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death to

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enemies the last shrewdly based

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of course on years of death rays

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magnetic mines

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they were in use a quarter of a century

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ago and

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the like the day-to-day guides for local

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affairs

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many australian newspapers and weeklies

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run similar forecasts

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are equally fatuous the various

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seers must see a different bunch of

580
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stars

581
00:25:40,630 --> 00:25:37,520
as these prophets frequently contradict

582
00:25:43,590 --> 00:25:40,640
each other for the last christmas day

583
00:25:44,390 --> 00:25:43,600
for instance quote woman's in quote

584
00:25:47,510 --> 00:25:44,400
profit

585
00:25:48,549 --> 00:25:47,520
forecast adverse vibrations likely to

586
00:25:52,549 --> 00:25:48,559
cause domestic

587
00:25:55,590 --> 00:25:52,559
quarrels while another purported

588
00:25:58,470 --> 00:25:55,600
contentment and good will in the air

589
00:25:58,870 --> 00:25:58,480
due to a beautiful aspect between venus

590
00:26:02,630 --> 00:25:58,880
and

591
00:26:05,110 --> 00:26:02,640
neptune shrewd guesses both

592
00:26:05,909 --> 00:26:05,120
one banking on christmas celebrations

593
00:26:09,750 --> 00:26:05,919
the other

594
00:26:11,029 --> 00:26:09,760
on a christmas eve hangover and the

595
00:26:14,310 --> 00:26:11,039
stars

596
00:26:16,789 --> 00:26:14,320
got the credit for either or both

597
00:26:17,590 --> 00:26:16,799
other types of daily prediction are hit

598
00:26:21,110 --> 00:26:17,600
or miss

599
00:26:25,110 --> 00:26:21,120
stuff for instance november 7

600
00:26:27,590 --> 00:26:25,120
cup day an outsider will probably win

601
00:26:29,510 --> 00:26:27,600
towards midnight on this day conditions

602
00:26:32,630 --> 00:26:29,520
look very convivial

603
00:26:35,510 --> 00:26:32,640
december 8th before 8 am

604
00:26:36,390 --> 00:26:35,520
good for music pleasure or shopping

605
00:26:39,590 --> 00:26:36,400
trips

606
00:26:42,470 --> 00:26:39,600
before 4 p.m for a busy hour

607
00:26:44,070 --> 00:26:42,480
the 8th is a friday householders

608
00:26:47,110 --> 00:26:44,080
shopping day

609
00:26:49,750 --> 00:26:47,120
and a note from me where it says

610
00:26:51,510 --> 00:26:49,760
november the 7th cup day an outsider

611
00:26:54,710 --> 00:26:51,520
will probably win

612
00:26:57,350 --> 00:26:54,720
cup day is melbourne cup the famous

613
00:27:00,390 --> 00:26:57,360
horse race here in australia

614
00:27:02,870 --> 00:27:00,400
we read on these latter

615
00:27:04,310 --> 00:27:02,880
petty predictions would hardly be worth

616
00:27:07,510 --> 00:27:04,320
worrying over

617
00:27:09,510 --> 00:27:07,520
were it not that a big and growing mass

618
00:27:11,430 --> 00:27:09,520
of followers believes

619
00:27:14,789 --> 00:27:11,440
that they have a genuine scientific

620
00:27:18,389 --> 00:27:14,799
basis that astrology is a science

621
00:27:20,870 --> 00:27:18,399
that the future can be read in the stars

622
00:27:23,029 --> 00:27:20,880
there are people in sydney who consult

623
00:27:25,510 --> 00:27:23,039
an astrologer before buying a business

624
00:27:26,789 --> 00:27:25,520
undergoing an operation or taking a

625
00:27:30,070 --> 00:27:26,799
holiday

626
00:27:31,590 --> 00:27:30,080
if there were an astrological table for

627
00:27:34,630 --> 00:27:31,600
cutting corns and

628
00:27:35,190 --> 00:27:34,640
toenails by the moon they would follow

629
00:27:41,350 --> 00:27:35,200
it

630
00:27:44,149 --> 00:27:41,360
abdominal operations when the moon is

631
00:27:45,269 --> 00:27:44,159
in virgo or buying goldfish when the

632
00:27:48,710 --> 00:27:45,279
same orb

633
00:27:49,430 --> 00:27:48,720
is in pisces stockings don't ladder so

634
00:27:52,630 --> 00:27:49,440
quickly

635
00:27:55,830 --> 00:27:52,640
if bought when the moon is in aquarius

636
00:27:58,630 --> 00:27:55,840
you consult the astrologer to find when

637
00:28:00,230 --> 00:27:58,640
that visit occurs what the general

638
00:28:03,590 --> 00:28:00,240
public should realize

639
00:28:07,029 --> 00:28:03,600
is that astrology has no connection

640
00:28:08,950 --> 00:28:07,039
whatever with the stars it is simply a

641
00:28:09,510 --> 00:28:08,960
kind of fortune telling based on the

642
00:28:12,870 --> 00:28:09,520
apparent

643
00:28:15,909 --> 00:28:12,880
position of the planets in the zodiac

644
00:28:17,669 --> 00:28:15,919
a narrow belt of sky divided into 12

645
00:28:20,389 --> 00:28:17,679
imaginary signs

646
00:28:22,549 --> 00:28:20,399
the planets include the sun and the moon

647
00:28:23,269 --> 00:28:22,559
because the ancient babylonians who

648
00:28:26,630 --> 00:28:23,279
invented

649
00:28:29,830 --> 00:28:26,640
the cult thought the earth

650
00:28:31,190 --> 00:28:29,840
fixed and the sun and the moon wandered

651
00:28:34,549 --> 00:28:31,200
around it

652
00:28:38,389 --> 00:28:34,559
planet originally meant wanderer

653
00:28:39,669 --> 00:28:38,399
the signs once corresponded to certain

654
00:28:42,470 --> 00:28:39,679
constellations

655
00:28:43,269 --> 00:28:42,480
but owing to a motion of the earth's

656
00:28:45,669 --> 00:28:43,279
axis

657
00:28:46,789 --> 00:28:45,679
procession these constellations have

658
00:28:49,510 --> 00:28:46,799
slipped west

659
00:28:51,110 --> 00:28:49,520
so that sign aries is now in

660
00:28:54,230 --> 00:28:51,120
constellation pisces

661
00:28:55,750 --> 00:28:54,240
and so on but astrologers stick blindly

662
00:28:59,590 --> 00:28:55,760
to the original

663
00:29:02,710 --> 00:28:59,600
signs now mere names not even

664
00:29:05,350 --> 00:29:02,720
corresponding to the zodiacal stars

665
00:29:06,230 --> 00:29:05,360
as for the thousands of stars beyond the

666
00:29:09,110 --> 00:29:06,240
zodiac

667
00:29:11,510 --> 00:29:09,120
which blaze in the night sky they do not

668
00:29:12,310 --> 00:29:11,520
enter into astrological calculations at

669
00:29:15,110 --> 00:29:12,320
all

670
00:29:15,909 --> 00:29:15,120
the average astrologer could not tell

671
00:29:18,950 --> 00:29:15,919
you

672
00:29:22,310 --> 00:29:18,960
where to find them their names

673
00:29:22,710 --> 00:29:22,320
or their history the ancients believe

674
00:29:25,029 --> 00:29:22,720
that

675
00:29:26,950 --> 00:29:25,039
the planets were actual personifications

676
00:29:30,149 --> 00:29:26,960
of babylonian gods

677
00:29:31,750 --> 00:29:30,159
and ascribed the characters of these

678
00:29:34,630 --> 00:29:31,760
gods to them

679
00:29:35,430 --> 00:29:34,640
these ancient characters survive as the

680
00:29:38,549 --> 00:29:35,440
influences

681
00:29:42,149 --> 00:29:38,559
ascribed to the sun moon venus etc by

682
00:29:45,510 --> 00:29:42,159
the modern astrologer astrologers a ver

683
00:29:48,549 --> 00:29:45,520
that the light of the planets sheds

684
00:29:49,909 --> 00:29:48,559
these mysterious influences actually the

685
00:29:53,190 --> 00:29:49,919
planets shine only by

686
00:29:56,070 --> 00:29:53,200
reflected sunlight and possesses much

687
00:29:57,269 --> 00:29:56,080
influence as a shaft of sunlight

688
00:30:00,070 --> 00:29:57,279
reflected

689
00:30:01,750 --> 00:30:00,080
from a broken beer bottle the biggest

690
00:30:05,110 --> 00:30:01,760
joke of modern astrology

691
00:30:06,389 --> 00:30:05,120
is the new planet pluto discovered in

692
00:30:08,470 --> 00:30:06,399
1930

693
00:30:10,070 --> 00:30:08,480
and at once incorporated into the

694
00:30:12,549 --> 00:30:10,080
astrologers hierarchy

695
00:30:13,750 --> 00:30:12,559
as the ruler of mysterious and dark

696
00:30:15,990 --> 00:30:13,760
doings

697
00:30:17,350 --> 00:30:16,000
because classic pluto ruled the

698
00:30:20,070 --> 00:30:17,360
underworld

699
00:30:21,190 --> 00:30:20,080
but the planet got that name only by

700
00:30:24,389 --> 00:30:21,200
chance

701
00:30:25,430 --> 00:30:24,399
its godfather roger putnam hesitated

702
00:30:28,470 --> 00:30:25,440
between

703
00:30:31,830 --> 00:30:28,480
minerva atlas prometheus

704
00:30:32,389 --> 00:30:31,840
chronos and percival percival was his

705
00:30:35,590 --> 00:30:32,399
choice

706
00:30:37,190 --> 00:30:35,600
after percival lowell his uncle and

707
00:30:38,630 --> 00:30:37,200
whose observatory the planet was

708
00:30:41,750 --> 00:30:38,640
discovered

709
00:30:45,110 --> 00:30:41,760
better council prevailed but had

710
00:30:48,830 --> 00:30:45,120
that planet been named percy

711
00:30:51,909 --> 00:30:48,840
what in the name of thunder would it

712
00:30:55,190 --> 00:30:51,919
astrologically become the ruler of

713
00:30:58,950 --> 00:30:55,200
actually pluto has since been proved

714
00:31:02,310 --> 00:30:58,960
no planet it is a tiny asteroidal

715
00:31:05,669 --> 00:31:02,320
body no bigger than the moon with an

716
00:31:08,950 --> 00:31:05,679
eccentric orbit half in half

717
00:31:10,149 --> 00:31:08,960
out that of neptune it is a piece of

718
00:31:13,669 --> 00:31:10,159
waste slag

719
00:31:15,590 --> 00:31:13,679
rock or nickel iron probably if it is to

720
00:31:18,549 --> 00:31:15,600
be made a ruler of destiny

721
00:31:20,149 --> 00:31:18,559
astrologers should in mere justice

722
00:31:23,669 --> 00:31:20,159
include the 1880

723
00:31:26,950 --> 00:31:23,679
much closer minor planets including

724
00:31:30,310 --> 00:31:26,960
angelina chicago and joanna

725
00:31:33,990 --> 00:31:30,320
not to mention pittsburgh

726
00:31:36,789 --> 00:31:34,000
maybe the rule of ammunition makers

727
00:31:38,149 --> 00:31:36,799
and so to add some humor and variety to

728
00:31:40,310 --> 00:31:38,159
their cult

729
00:31:41,509 --> 00:31:40,320
the international college should think

730
00:31:45,029 --> 00:31:41,519
over this

731
00:31:47,509 --> 00:31:45,039
bright idea in the meantime this same

732
00:31:49,590 --> 00:31:47,519
old babylonian idols disguised as

733
00:31:52,310 --> 00:31:49,600
mercury venus mars and co

734
00:31:53,590 --> 00:31:52,320
are paraded in australia even though the

735
00:31:56,549 --> 00:31:53,600
advent of the war

736
00:31:57,990 --> 00:31:56,559
has badly cracked these josh's credits

737
00:32:00,470 --> 00:31:58,000
overseas

738
00:32:01,590 --> 00:32:00,480
the incurably superstitious may be

739
00:32:04,470 --> 00:32:01,600
forgiven

740
00:32:04,950 --> 00:32:04,480
belief but newspaper proprietors who

741
00:32:07,590 --> 00:32:04,960
permit

742
00:32:08,630 --> 00:32:07,600
such trash to be published in their

743
00:32:10,389 --> 00:32:08,640
columns

744
00:32:12,870 --> 00:32:10,399
simply rank themselves with the

745
00:32:14,230 --> 00:32:12,880
money-grubbing exploiters of ignorance

746
00:32:18,070 --> 00:32:14,240
in the past

747
00:32:19,750 --> 00:32:18,080
the new smiths will have none of it

748
00:32:22,710 --> 00:32:19,760
[Music]

749
00:32:23,590 --> 00:32:22,720
and our next uh entry comes from the

750
00:32:28,470 --> 00:32:23,600
cairns post

751
00:32:31,750 --> 00:32:28,480
dated the 6th of february 1942

752
00:32:34,070 --> 00:32:31,760
astrology war predictions

753
00:32:35,029 --> 00:32:34,080
and we don't have a byline so i'm not

754
00:32:38,389 --> 00:32:35,039
sure

755
00:32:42,950 --> 00:32:38,399
what's not stated here who wrote this

756
00:32:45,350 --> 00:32:42,960
you may well look for peace about 1943

757
00:32:47,110 --> 00:32:45,360
mussolini will be pumped off in three or

758
00:32:51,350 --> 00:32:47,120
four months time

759
00:32:54,470 --> 00:32:51,360
hitler will crack up about next may

760
00:32:56,230 --> 00:32:54,480
so the stars foretell according to the

761
00:32:58,870 --> 00:32:56,240
astrologers who met at a

762
00:32:59,669 --> 00:32:58,880
lunch at groves in a house london

763
00:33:03,990 --> 00:32:59,679
skeptical

764
00:33:07,669 --> 00:33:04,000
mr ronald franco who presided described

765
00:33:10,789 --> 00:33:07,679
this birthday stuff as really funny

766
00:33:12,149 --> 00:33:10,799
obviously everyone born on the same day

767
00:33:14,230 --> 00:33:12,159
at the same time

768
00:33:15,590 --> 00:33:14,240
must have the same characteristics and

769
00:33:18,389 --> 00:33:15,600
future he argued

770
00:33:19,509 --> 00:33:18,399
adding admit laughter well there must be

771
00:33:22,230 --> 00:33:19,519
about 200

772
00:33:23,190 --> 00:33:22,240
000 people who were born on the same day

773
00:33:26,789 --> 00:33:23,200
as hitler

774
00:33:29,430 --> 00:33:26,799
mr r h naylor replied that

775
00:33:31,029 --> 00:33:29,440
there were several million places in

776
00:33:33,590 --> 00:33:31,039
which to be born

777
00:33:35,269 --> 00:33:33,600
and everything depended upon the horizon

778
00:33:37,750 --> 00:33:35,279
of the exact place

779
00:33:38,789 --> 00:33:37,760
where a person first saw the light of

780
00:33:41,269 --> 00:33:38,799
day

781
00:33:42,389 --> 00:33:41,279
astrologers present made these

782
00:33:44,950 --> 00:33:42,399
predictions

783
00:33:46,310 --> 00:33:44,960
one the critical time in the thrust

784
00:33:50,149 --> 00:33:46,320
against moscow

785
00:33:52,789 --> 00:33:50,159
will come about the middle of next month

786
00:33:54,710 --> 00:33:52,799
but there is no astrological indications

787
00:33:57,990 --> 00:33:54,720
that moscow would fall

788
00:33:59,269 --> 00:33:58,000
two the german attack will switch to the

789
00:34:01,590 --> 00:33:59,279
south and east

790
00:34:02,789 --> 00:34:01,600
in the next two or three weeks within

791
00:34:05,269 --> 00:34:02,799
two or three months

792
00:34:06,789 --> 00:34:05,279
the eastern and central mediterranean

793
00:34:10,310 --> 00:34:06,799
and the near and middle east

794
00:34:12,710 --> 00:34:10,320
would be caught in the vortex of war

795
00:34:13,909 --> 00:34:12,720
three the united states will be at war

796
00:34:17,430 --> 00:34:13,919
with japan

797
00:34:19,669 --> 00:34:17,440
before she is at war with germany four

798
00:34:22,389 --> 00:34:19,679
there will be no revolution in germany

799
00:34:25,669 --> 00:34:22,399
hitler and the german people will remain

800
00:34:26,389 --> 00:34:25,679
solidly together to the end but a wide

801
00:34:28,470 --> 00:34:26,399
gap

802
00:34:29,510 --> 00:34:28,480
will develop between the prussian high

803
00:34:32,950 --> 00:34:29,520
command

804
00:34:35,909 --> 00:34:32,960
and the nazi old guard 5.

805
00:34:37,990 --> 00:34:35,919
in france there will be a revolution in

806
00:34:42,149 --> 00:34:38,000
the next few months

807
00:34:45,589 --> 00:34:42,159
six italy is already sunk

808
00:34:46,310 --> 00:34:45,599
and it goes on to say quote manchester

809
00:34:52,069 --> 00:34:46,320
guardian

810
00:34:55,109 --> 00:34:52,079
end quote report 31st of october 1941.

811
00:34:57,670 --> 00:34:55,119
in 1939 the astrologers

812
00:34:59,190 --> 00:34:57,680
conference announced that there was no

813
00:35:02,230 --> 00:34:59,200
indication of war

814
00:35:05,910 --> 00:35:02,240
that year while at easter

815
00:35:09,109 --> 00:35:05,920
1940 it predicted that the war which had

816
00:35:10,390 --> 00:35:09,119
falsified their prediction would end in

817
00:35:13,990 --> 00:35:10,400
12 months

818
00:35:17,270 --> 00:35:14,000
astronomers observation i do not know

819
00:35:18,550 --> 00:35:17,280
of any astrologer who is an observer of

820
00:35:21,829 --> 00:35:18,560
the stars

821
00:35:23,030 --> 00:35:21,839
nor do i know any serious observer of

822
00:35:26,470 --> 00:35:23,040
the stars who

823
00:35:29,750 --> 00:35:26,480
is an astrologer astrology

824
00:35:30,870 --> 00:35:29,760
is rubbish but because of human

825
00:35:34,390 --> 00:35:30,880
credulity

826
00:35:37,750 --> 00:35:34,400
and the profit to be made out of it

827
00:35:41,589 --> 00:35:37,760
astrology continues to flourish dr h

828
00:35:44,870 --> 00:35:41,599
spencer jones astronomer royal in the

829
00:35:49,349 --> 00:35:44,880
news chronicle

830
00:35:53,030 --> 00:35:49,359
and now as we wind up let's go forward

831
00:35:54,710 --> 00:35:53,040
many decades to the 1970s

832
00:35:56,870 --> 00:35:54,720
and this comes to us from the canberra

833
00:35:59,990 --> 00:35:56,880
times on the

834
00:36:03,349 --> 00:36:00,000
1st of february 1977

835
00:36:06,630 --> 00:36:03,359
astrology called absolute bunk

836
00:36:10,710 --> 00:36:06,640
melbourne monday astrology was

837
00:36:11,990 --> 00:36:10,720
absolute bunk and has been outdated as a

838
00:36:15,190 --> 00:36:12,000
science 400 years

839
00:36:16,150 --> 00:36:15,200
ago a senior methodist minister said

840
00:36:19,270 --> 00:36:16,160
today

841
00:36:21,349 --> 00:36:19,280
the rev e keith dietrich

842
00:36:22,870 --> 00:36:21,359
director of the methodist publishing

843
00:36:25,829 --> 00:36:22,880
house melbourne

844
00:36:27,990 --> 00:36:25,839
said that no recognized university had a

845
00:36:29,589 --> 00:36:28,000
chair of astrology since the german

846
00:36:32,630 --> 00:36:29,599
campus dropped the subject

847
00:36:35,829 --> 00:36:32,640
150 years ago if hitler

848
00:36:39,030 --> 00:36:35,839
had listened to his generals and

849
00:36:42,230 --> 00:36:39,040
not to his astrologers there would never

850
00:36:45,349 --> 00:36:42,240
have been a second world war he said

851
00:36:47,829 --> 00:36:45,359
mr dietrich said he had put no pressure

852
00:36:49,829 --> 00:36:47,839
on the council of adult education

853
00:36:51,190 --> 00:36:49,839
which had dropped its four astrology

854
00:36:54,310 --> 00:36:51,200
courses this year

855
00:36:57,190 --> 00:36:54,320
the c-a-e apparently gave the courses

856
00:36:58,710 --> 00:36:57,200
a two-year run and then decided they

857
00:37:01,750 --> 00:36:58,720
were not worthwhile

858
00:37:03,349 --> 00:37:01,760
mr dietrich said i haven't been in

859
00:37:06,230 --> 00:37:03,359
contact with the cae

860
00:37:08,470 --> 00:37:06,240
for at least two years i think astrology

861
00:37:11,510 --> 00:37:08,480
has read through newspaper horoscopes

862
00:37:12,310 --> 00:37:11,520
is pretty harmless but it's bunk all the

863
00:37:15,430 --> 00:37:12,320
same

864
00:37:17,750 --> 00:37:15,440
a melbourne-based astrologer mr

865
00:37:20,069 --> 00:37:17,760
maurice silva believes the federal

866
00:37:23,190 --> 00:37:20,079
government should invest in some

867
00:37:25,190 --> 00:37:23,200
starry-eyed advice mr silva

868
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secretary of the federation of

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australian astrologers

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said that the government could help to

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resolve

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problems like inflation and unemployment

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by using

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astrology he said that if it recognized

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the importance of astrology

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it could also avoid national disasters

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or revalue or devalue at the best time

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astrology could be used to plot

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community welfare projects

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and there we go a selection of

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interesting articles and reports about

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astrology mostly concerning world war ii

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in the pages of australian newspapers

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and so on

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and don't forget you too can enjoy a

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wander through the archives at trove

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dot trove.nla.gov dot a u you never know

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what you might find

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[Music]

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thursday the 7th of january join us for

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sydney

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skeptics in the pub online

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we present a talk by american skeptical

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investigator

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kenny biddle strategies for solving

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mysteries this talk will cover some of

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the

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various investigation strategies kenny

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uses when taking on paranormal claims

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cases that have been solved will be

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featured to demonstrate

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exactly how these strategies helped

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kenny biddle is a science enthusiast who

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investigates claims of

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paranormal experiences the equipment

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including video that people

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use to search for strange things and the

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evidence presented for

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ghosts ufos and cryptids

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that's sydney skeptics in the pub online

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7 pm thursday the 7th of january

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join in via twitch at twitch.tv

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slash australian skeptics see you there

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thank you for listening to the skeptic

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zone in 2020 and 2019 and 2018

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all the way back to 2008.

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let me see now as soon as uh 2021 takes

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over and i get the first show

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out that means the skeptic zone would

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have been produced

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and broadcast in 14

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different years 2008 910

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all the way up to 2021. now if you want

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to um

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enjoy 2021 all that more you can

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download a couple of calendars the

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maynard calendar at maynard.com.iu i

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think that site's going

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undergoing maintenance at the moment but

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check back there for maynard's calendar

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or if you go to skepticzone.tv and look

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at this week's show notes

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or scroll to the bottom of the page you

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can download my calendar

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and it's not a skeptical one it's

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origami photography

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i've done over the years made up into a

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calendar

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including pegasus the flying pig made

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by me for james randy it's formatted for

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a3 or a4 paper but i'm sure you can make

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that fit letter or

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larger paper from wherever you're

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listening

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download the pdf print it out put it on

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the wall

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and have an origami interesting year

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now henry out of the uh one of the cats

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has come into the office this time

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yes what do you want you want some

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breakfast

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think i better run downstairs now and

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feed these cats but for this week

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and this year this is richard saunders

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signing off from

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you've been listening to the skeptic

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zone podcast

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to 2008.

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is an independent production the views

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and opinions expressed on the skeptic

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zone

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are not necessarily those of australian

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skeptics or any other

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ha you thought it was gonna be richard

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no it is susan kerbick

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and i am going to play the dice game

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today so i hope you guys are all out

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there

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i'm here on a skype call i mean zoom

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call with with a bunch of people so

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they're they're putting on

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pretend hats and pretend glasses just

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because

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they're goofy people we've been working

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on the australian prediction project

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which we do every tuesday which would be

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wednesday in australia

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i have a magic die right here

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and i'm going to show on the zoom screen

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that there are numbers that

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are not all fives and you can see

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there are all kinds of numbers on here

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from one to six goofy

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all right so i'm gonna roll this die

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three times

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and i predict five five five

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but i wanna know what you guys all

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predict so i'm going to go through you

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guys give me a number so wendy what do

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you give me a number

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three adrian five hey

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rob four leonard

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two kelly for

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scott i wanted two as well

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and i guess we'll let richard saunders

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play oh gee thanks one

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one okay here we go so i'm gonna do this

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on camera so everybody can see see

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here's the die right there nothing else

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on my hands

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i'm pulling up my sleeves there's no

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mess yeah we know from mark that that's

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not okay

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i'm rolling the die i'm gonna roll it

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right here watch

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wait wait wait wait i didn't look okay

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here we go

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what is that oh shoot it mooch wait wait

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i'm gonna do it on something

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let me see if i can let me move this so

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i can if you guys can see it

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you can't get good people these days

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folks i'm saying go on susan

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okay here wait wait there's

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this and you're going to be for richard

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okay as long as you can see that here we

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go here's the dice

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it is a two there

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we have a couple twos okay so we got a

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two

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times so you ready

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okay you stay with the same number yep

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yes okay here we go

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mama needs a new pair of shoes it is a

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which is like two twos people get so

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excited it's just so funny okay one more

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time everybody's staying with the same

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number

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yes yeah okay cool it's gonna be a five

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watch

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it's gonna be a one come on one come on

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five five five

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four yes two out of three

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well so this one was definitely not

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rigged like last week

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adrian here is such a fun person and she

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took care of that last week and really

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surprised me with that

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if you haven't listened to the easter

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egg and the dice game from last week you

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guys got to watch

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that too so thank you so much for

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letting me play

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in charge this week and um the numbers

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were two

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four four which are all divisible by two

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oh

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okay and just to round off uh we'll give

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one more special one at the end of the

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year one

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this is a d30

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[Music]

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a d30 so i'll roll it here in sydney

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australia

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susan was rolling her down

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of course it is it's a five what do you

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24. 29. 29.

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all right here it comes a d30 and for

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those of you playing at home or in your

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car or wherever you are

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don't play in your car oh look at that

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now that says something

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thirteen thirteen thirteen

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three plus one is four no here we go

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and add the four four um

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susan really rolled one time i've

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usually rolled one time so four plus one

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is five

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have you ever thought about being a

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right after i become a psychic this

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this week's winning numbers if you're

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playing at home are two

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four four and thirteen thanks everyone

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hi they're all waving again they're all

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waving you say that this isn't already

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exactly the podcast thanks richard